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Does Obama's cigarette smoking bother you?

By April 20, 2008 - 9:59pm
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Granted Senator Obama "quit" smoking about a year ago (he admits falling off the wagon now and again), but this is still a very current health issue for him since he did smoke cigarettes for the majority of his life.

I mean, the amount of fatty deposits in a carotid artery doesn't just go away when you quit smoking. It's there and poses a health risk for the rest of your life.

And the risk of a stroke remains way higher than normal for up to 20 years after you quit smoking. (On top of this, African-Americans have a higher risk of stroke than Caucasians.)

So do you choose a presidential candidate even though he's at a very high risk of disease/death? Does it matter that for decades he has been addicted to a drug?

How would you feel seeing the US President attached to an oxygen tank?

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Listen. The whole smoking thing has been blown way out of whack. I am in my 50's, I don't smoke, but both my parents smoked, pretty much all their friends smoked and they all smoked around us "kids" everywhere: in the house, in the car, at parties, in restaraunts etc, etc, etc.on a constant basis. Even my Grandparents smoked (both are in their 90's now..and in good health). Now I'm not advocating smoking. I'm glad it's a habit I never started, and I am not saying it's a good thing to do...I know it's not healthy..(neither is skydiving)but I'll tell you...out of all the "kids" of the people I know that were constantly exposed to cig smoke (there are at least 60 or so of us between family members and friends) not one of them has any sort of lung problem..and only 1 of their parents gets bronchitis in the winter. So my point is, I think we are all being manipulated by fear and in the end it just took away another right of ours individually and as business owners. It is ridiculous to me the extent that some states are going to ..banning smoking even in the outdoors..and in some cases in your own home. People, we have got to wake up! We are allowing this and perpetuating it with our attitudes towards smokers! Look around you...in your car, your home, your workplace, outside, you are breathing in all kinds of chemicals everyday. Next there will be a ban on using your grill, burning a fire in your fireplace, forced to drive on a limited basis,limit alcohol, etc. Next the food you eat is going to be monitored. What happened to our right to decide for ourselves? I have always used my own right to decide when it came to being next to a smoker or not. I have used my right to choose whether or not to sit in the smoking or non smoking section of an establishment. If I didn't like the place then I wouldn't go to it. SIMPLE. Again I am not advocating smoking, I am advocating freedom to choose. I am concerned how easily we are all so easily manipulated and jump on the bandwagon of a cause that I feel is now getting out of control, without thinking logically and realizing what is really happening here. I am concerned of how a group of people were so easily ostrosized, belittled and pretty much thought to be scum for lack of a better word all through manipulation by the media. HYSTERIA concerns me. I am concerned that many do not see the true meaning behind these "bans."

As for Obama smoking...lol. Give me a break. Let the man do his job and don't worry about whether he smokes, eats too much,,,etc. It's simply ridiculous!!

February 13, 2009 - 4:11am
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

I think you hit the proverbial nail on the head when you said the word "Hysteria".

How right you are.

I've noticed it myself in seemingly rational and intelligent associates.
The hysterical mob mentality. It's as if people have been robbed of their own sensibilities and have taken on a cause that has been beaten into their heads and now they somehow have lost all logical thinking.

Oh no!!! A smoker is walking towards us!!! Scum of the earth, dirt bag, abomination!!! Where are the smoking police ????!!!
Off with his head!!! Off with his head!!!

I guess if you're fed something long and hard enough you just buy into it. As the one commenter said above, we are a country of followers.
My word, where have our brains gone?

I wonder who the next victims will be once all the smokers are banished?
Geez I hope it's not you and what you do.


February 13, 2009 - 10:34pm
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)


February 15, 2009 - 7:22am
EmpowHER Guest

OK, are we really going to look at Obama's health versus that of McCain?

July 6, 2008 - 10:57am

Because he appears healthy and vibrant, his smoking past is not the issue. His candidacy is based upon whether or not he possesses the right stuff for the Oval Office.

Because McCain has, in both his Presidential bids, been open and candid about his health issues - remember that he was a POW from the Viet Nam era - his candidacy is based upon whether or not he possesses the right stuff AND the physical stamina. McCain has the added mark of age going against him.

All I really care about is who has the right stuff.

June 2, 2008 - 8:13pm
(reply to alysiak)

Obama's lack of experience and continual skirting of issues is more of a concern than McCain being 70-whatever. Who cares? McCain has more experience than any of them and he's a straight shooter. I like that.

That said, I don't know if I care for anybody's politics. Someone has 4 months to step up.

Kristin Mills, Traditional Naturopath, CNHP

July 7, 2008 - 12:09am

Do you really think the American voter seriously considers whether or not Obama's smoking past makes him more or less Presidential than McCain?

There is a long history of Presidential candidates hiding their health problems. Franklin Roosevelt didn't want to appear weak to the public, in spite of his polio. We elected Jack Kennedy, in spite of his chronic back problems, not knowing he actually had Addison's disease. Eisenhower had a heart attack, a stroke and an abdominal operation all within two years. Grover Cleveland secretly underwent surgery removing the roof of his mouth due to carcinoma. Ronald Reagan lost a lot of lucidity during the later part of his term - we were sympathetic because of the assassination attempt, but didn't know he was suffering the early affects of Alzheimer's.

Were you to check the health histories of our Founding Fathers and first Presidents, you'd be alarmed at the depression and heart disease, among some other pretty scary health issues, that ravaged them. George Washington suffered from: "Malaria, smallpox, tuberculosis, dysentery, boils (carbuncles), tooth loss, hearing loss, presbyopia, infertility, quinsy, pneumonia, epiglottitis or strep infection of the larynx."

We would balk at the risk of electing a President who could not fulfill the requirements of his office, communicate on our behalf, represent us to our global society or defend us against our many adversaries. We would hardly balk at a guy who recently quit smoking.

While health may be an issue that some of our candidates, like McCain, want to make a "non-issue," we're more concerned about qualities like leadership and morality, even by association. Frankly, I'd rather elect someone who admits to a health issue than one who claims to not have inhaled. I think it's great that McCain is leading the way to breaking tradition with hiding a troublesome health past.

Whom I choose to vote for, however, will depend entirely upon my preference over candidates based on what I believe their qualifications are for the office, not the waiting room.

June 2, 2008 - 8:05pm

and Obama is no different. Bush was a former alcoholic who many would argue still has addictive tendencies. Cheney could drop dead at any moment. McCain would be 72 when he took the oath of office if he wins, and we know that age and sex alone dramatically increase the risk for heart disease and stroke. He also had a previous encounter with skin cancer and has the scars to prove it. Both of those things would trouble me more than Obama's past as a smoker.

Everyone has health issues, and presidential candidates are no exception. This surely doesn't top the list of my concerns, as the risk of anyone dying at 46 is quite low, smoker or not. This country has much more pressing concerns...

April 23, 2008 - 3:30pm
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Anonymous (reply to Echo)

For "Echo" .I believe that you are partially missing the point. Its Obama lack of willpower, judgment and resolve that is at issue here. Think of a smoker as someone who is an addict. Pretend that he was addicted to food instead and, due a lack of restraint, weighed 350lbs. A weight problem like that would speak to a lack of discipline, among other things. And it would definitely affect Obamas electibility. So why should his inability to quit smoking be any different? McCain didnt choose to get skin cancer and Cheny didnt do anything to develop a heart problem. In fact, both of them have been forced to take extra good care of themselves because of their respective health issues. I cant imagine either of them having a problem quitting smoking. I think that being able to quit takes real character and character counts when considering who to vote for, IMHO, at least.

June 2, 2008 - 6:18pm
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

wow, how judgemental of you. People who weigh 350 lbs. surely do not choose this, not only because of the obvious problems it causes them, but also the sheer hatred and disgust that society projects towards them. Don't you realize the extra weight is just the symptom of an underlying problem? Extra weight doesn't make a person stupid or incompetant.

If President Lincoln had packed on an extra 50 pounds he would be unfit to be President?

Where is the logic in this?

I guess in a society like ours where prejudice runs rampant on so many different levels, from race to sex to religion, too fat, too thin, this shallow attitude is par for the course.

It is no wonder so many of the kids today are so shallow and judgemental.
How could they be any other way when they have parents who teach them to be just like themselves.

February 13, 2009 - 10:16pm
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