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Has anyone had experience using the Wiley Protocol of hormone replacement therapy?
It is a method where bioidentical hormones are prescribed and are given transdermally -- through the skin -- in a patent-pending cream. A primary
difference between this protocol and some others is that the hormonal levels rise and fall, similar to the way a woman's normal cycle did when she was still menstruating.
There is some controversy on the web about T.S. Wiley's qualifications for developing a medical protocol, since she is not a doctor herself, she studied anthropology (though she co-authored the book "Sex, Lies, and Menopause" with Julie Taguchi, M.D.)
Some women claim wonderful results; others claim very troubling side effects. Does anyone out there have personal experiences to share?
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There's a lot more information in this thread than testimonials one way or the other.
August 26, 2009 - 1:36amThis Comment
Please keep in mind that a very few people, no matter if they are pro or con, can repeatedly and agressively post their opinions in order to skew opinion in one direction or the other. The only way to prevent this bias is to require that people identify themselves in a way that can be verified, and allow only one post per person. Obviously, this is not possible for most bloggers to do. So obviously, the opinions posted here are bias and suspect IMHO. I share your concern, Dianne, and went through a similar research period before deciding to try the Wiley Protocol after finding a doctor who has helped me greatly in many other ways for the past 10 months. I trust that he is telling me the truth when he says that many women are thriving on the protocol, but some have not done so. It is too soon for me to give a personal testimony. I wish you the best of health.
August 25, 2009 - 12:33pmThis Comment
Thank you, Anon, for your candor and your willingness to see both sides! I'll be very interested in your experiences when you believe you've got enough time behind you to tell what differences, if any, it has made in your life. Thank you so much for writing!
August 27, 2009 - 8:19amThis Comment
If you think any of the women posting here are not telling the truth about their horrible experiences on the Wiley Protocol, all you have to do is check Wikipedia
August 25, 2009 - 5:34pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiley_Protocol
After reading the description, click on the DISCUSSION tab at the top. This reveals how Wiley's husband repeatedly tried to misrepresent the success of the Protocol and was reprimanded by the Wikipedia editors for trying to manipulate the facts. I assume your doctor is well-meaning but he may be unaware of how many lives have been damaged. It is unprecedented that a fast-talking college drop-out can con so many doctors. But that's exactly what the TV expose on 20/20 showed.
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wikipedia is written by everyone who wants to write about a subject, including laypeople. My daughter's college professor wouldn't allow any resources from wikipedia in any of her papers. http://www.citris-uc.org/research/projects/author_reputation_and_text_trust_wikipedia
December 22, 2009 - 7:02pmThis Comment
What's the worst that can happen, you ask?
August 23, 2009 - 5:46amThe Wiley Protocol has done permanent damage to some women because the progesterone dose is too high. Women have had hysterectomies because they couldn't stop the bleeding. The Wiley Protocol is an experience not everyone comes back from without damage to the progesterone receptors. A lot of us thought like you-- that we could just stop and we'd be fine in a few days.
I don't know who told you that the Wiley Protocol was safer-- because it was never tested. NEVER.
Wiley is a self-described "Southern California housewife" who never graduated from college and made up a hormone protocol. This was all documented when the TV show 20/20 did an expose on her.
We all learned about her lack of experience too late. After the doctors prescribing the Wiley Protocol began to get sued, the truth came out.
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I feel sorry for all the people who take you seriously, whoever you are. There is pure ire in your tone (anger, if you don't understand the word) and it is spurious (false, again for the uneducated amongst you and your kind.) For one thing, if i were lying bleeding, dying in the street, I would not question the credentials of the person who came to save me. Many women have gone way past the emergency stage... they are hurting, and that is after they have had a lot of experience with 'doctors' who have done their best or their worst (depending upon how you look at it) and left them to fend for themselves. You suggest by your post that "Women have had hysterectomies because they couldn't stop the bleeding," somehow relates directly to an overabundance of progesterone in their systems. This is a ridiculous assumption. I couldn't 'stop the bleeding' from fibroid tumors... was this because of excessive progesterone in my system? I think not. And there would be others who would find this totally propagandist... Whether Wiley or anyone else is right or wrong can only be proven by direct experience. Accusations, such as you make, are illogical (for anyone who bothers to use logic) and potentially hurtful. My neighbor has been on Wiley Protocol for four years. She is happy, thin, energetic and looks years younger than her age. It was only after I asked her what she was doing to be in such great shape, that she shared this 'secret' with me. Is this not 'testing?' Is real experinece not testing? The 20/20 sho you refer to was a paradigm example of propagandist journalism, using omission and timing to make points that were not really there. Anyone can be attacked. Anyone can be made to look a fool in a certain light. I despise the type of thinking that you espouse and I have ever since I learned to use my brain for something other than a hat rack.
March 25, 2011 - 8:15pmGo back from whence you came. I just stopped by to look around and found a lot of people worried for no reason fueled by people like you and thinking like yours. You don't make any sense. You are accusative and full of prejudice. But anyone who really uses their powers of thought could see through you in a minute. Bring some real arguments. Maybe then I might give them some credibility. Until then, I am doing the Wiley protocol and am feeling better than I have felt in years. Good luck to you.
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amen sister, you said it all!! don't people realize that the media, like many establishments out there nowdays gets a kick back from pharmaceutical companies?? and money buys bullshit. the "medical" community is terrified of bioidenticals because they can't patent them and thus can't make money off them and got forbid we stop going to them for their pills. wise up women.. you are willing to pop any pill your "doctor" gives you when you know damn well you are nothng but a guinea pig (no real research was done), you are the research and then 2 years later there are class actions suits all over the place. but you do it because you think, "hey, they are doctors". but they are just pill pushers that treat disease, they don't care about prevention because they make no money if you are healthy and happy. the bottom line is money and i trust the media not at all anymore, they lie and they are in bed with the money makers, don't be naive. do your research, talk to other women who have been successfull and who are advocates and supporters of women and their HEALTH, not their sickness.
May 15, 2012 - 9:55amThis Comment
It's an interesting characterization of Wiley that she's just a good samaritan helping women in need. The fact is that women who buy into the Wiley Protocol *buy* the Wiley Protocol. Every one of them represents money in Wiley's pocket. And those who have spoken up and reported adverse experiences with her "secret" have then been criticized for not following the protocol correctly (as if Wiley could somehow magically know this), and in cases when they could be identified they have been personally attacked and harassed behind the scenes. And I trust you know that the Wiley organization has been caught posting fake testimonials on the Internet in response to these negative reports.
Whenever there has been a conflict between helping women and helping herself, Wiley has demonstrated what she really cares about over and over again.
March 28, 2011 - 12:13amThis Comment
you "buy" the product. you "work" the protocol. she makes o money off you buying hormone replacemets, your doctor makes money off giving you a prescription they know nothing about because it happens to be the latest and they are PAID to push it. and really, we all make money, that's how we live, even you. i'm a painter, i sell my art work. am i a bad person because i talk to people about how they can benefit from buying my artwork, how it can enrisch their lives.. come on.
May 15, 2012 - 10:16amThis Comment