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Anyone use Neurological Relief Center for Fibro relief?

By September 11, 2009 - 7:53am
 
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My chiropractor is part of this group that advertises relief for Fibromyalgia. I have had the basic test done and had some immediate relief of headache and muscle pain. The test was like an accupressure kind-of-thing behind my jaw and at the base of my skull. The Dr. says it's not really accupressure. I haven't actually started treatment yet. There is a web site : stopfibro.net Thanks, Linda

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Anonymous

No the entire tx schedule is not free. The test to see if you are a candidate is free. Whatever the cost is it is worth it. This gal that has been a 5 year patient of mine looked into my eyes and told me she had a 0/10 pain rating for the first time in over 30 years. In her words she has gone to millions of doctors and been called everything from a faker to crazy. This technique can end all of that! I have budget plans in my office so that we can get people the care they need at what they can afford on a weekly basis.

March 30, 2010 - 1:31pm
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Anonymous

I also just came home from being trained on this technique and was skeptical myself at first. I made sure to bring one of my current fibro patients with me to work on her. After working with her for five years and giving her relief from 10/10 pain to 5-6/ 10 pain I thought she had reached maximum medical improvement. I tested her and WOW we were both amazed. If you suffer from chronic pain or neurologic problems you should get checked...... its free and you have nothing to lose. http://www.nrc.md/

March 30, 2010 - 10:47am
(reply to Anonymous)

Are you saying the entire treatment schedule is free? I didn't get that impression from others.

March 30, 2010 - 12:13pm

To date, I have not pursued this treatment option. I have had some relief by getting physical therapy but only with the massage treatment. Once the physical therapist started added exercises (typical for restoring strength after an injury), I found that the pain was so flared that I decided to stop. I think, based upon what I've learned from published material, is that this program does myofascial-trigger-point therapy. I think I can get that therapy from a liscensed massage therapist who understands myofascial trigger points. I had some treatments authorized by my insurance company that included electrical stimulation with needles at some pressure points. I found that this didn't help very much. I might try it again but...as many can agree, even having insurance doesn't cover all the costs. So, I'm still researching and reading. I love the comments, please, everyone, keep them coming. BTW, it is sooooooo validating to have a certified rheumatologist tell me "This pain is real, do not let ANYONE tell you it is in your head."

March 22, 2010 - 1:30pm
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Anonymous

Yes I had it done and I had fibro for years. It works really well. I went to so many doctors and was on so many drugs... to try to treat the fibro and I was still hurting. I went to the doctor and had the test done. In under 10 minutes I was significantly better. The doctor explained the treatment and at first I thought it was a lot of treatment...I had to come in a few times a day in the beginning, but it restored my life. I am so much better and am very happy with the results.

March 18, 2010 - 9:52am
(reply to Anonymous)

I think the treatments might help and appreciate your comment. My concern is still that the program is excessively costly and is pitched in a manner more consistent with infomercials with testimonials vs. scientific/clinical data. Your comment is valuable, I, too, got immediate relief but can you tell me how much these procedures have cost? Thanks.

March 22, 2010 - 1:06pm
(reply to Anonymous)

Thank you for sharing your experience, as I'm sure it will help many other women to read that this procedure was effective. I'm happy to hear that you are doing better!

March 18, 2010 - 1:59pm
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Anonymous

The Neurologic Relief Technique is a chiropractic adjustment to either the occiput( base of the skull) or the atlas C1 the first vetebrae in the spine. The "test" is pressure placed upon the front or back of the atlas C1 it will give you some reief of symptoms. The technique is not anything special or different from a traditional chiropractic adjustment to the C1 segement or base of the skull. It took the "weekend seminar" seminar in 2009 from the developer of the technique Dr. Paul Whitcomb ( Google him) About the tecnique and protocol: the treatment frequency is 3 times daily 5 days per week. That's right 15 adjustments per week. Duration of treatment is anywhere from 8 to 12 weeks. Insurance will pay for 1 treatment 3 days per week. So 3 of the 15 per week are paid by insurance. The other 12 are expected to be paid for "out of pocket" at $50 -$65 per adjustment. Typical treatment programs run between $5000-$8000 per program! You read that right! You will most often be asked to pay upfront with a credit card or to apply for financing. I have seen some people respond well others have not. But here's something to consider when The initial treatment is complete and you don't continue Your symptoms all come back again!! Also the doctors are charged a $10,000 liscensing fee before attending the seminar only to find out that the technique is not that different! Doctors are told it's worth it because "these people are looking for answers and will do or pay anything!"
they are given a complete manual instructing them how to hype up the treatment and sell it. I am chiropractor who has been in practice for 15years. My advice is credible. I reccomend you see a chiropractor if you'd like and see how adjustments work for you. They don't have to use NRT just a good adjustment to the upper part of the neck or base of the skull. Make sure they take x-rays before treatment begins. Good luck in your search for a solution.

Dr. Williams

February 11, 2010 - 12:32am
(reply to Anonymous)

Dr. Williams, it is very helpful when the comments come from someone able to at least provide a name. The Chiropractor who was pitching this program is someone I would trust with chiropractic adjustments but the pitch was too much like a sales pitch. I am well-educated and know how to do research. Thus, I was frustrated that this was something I couldn't figure out. Subsequent to my first posting, I saw a Rheumatologist who gave me a fibromyalgia and chronic myofacial pain diagnosis. He also gave me a list of publications that I could read to further understand what was happening. I have learned that the treatment I've questioned was more of a myofacial trigger point therapy than a fibromyalgia treatment. I also found that most insurance programs have some covered treatments for medicines. I had some physical therapy but found that when the treatment starts including floor exercises, I no longer get as much relief as when I just get massage treatments. I have had X-rays and MRI's done as you suggested. I have dealt with physicians who think it's just a symptom of my mental health and those who validate my pain and propose helpful treatments. It seems you are well-grounded in your medical treatments and I, once again, thank you for your comments. Best regards, lslassiter

March 22, 2010 - 1:20pm
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Anonymous

My advice to any doctors planning on learning this procedure is STOP. I have done extensive research on this procedure and I'm going to share some information that you can check out yourself!!!

Originally, this procedure was called the Whitcomb Method and was performed at the Whitcomb Relief Center, in Lake Tahoe, CA. Dr. Whitcomb lost his liscence in mid 2009, which you can find the documentation for on the internet. Part of the problem cited in the legal documents are for claims that he made to patients.

Before meeting me, one of my clinic's current patients traveled to his office. She spent the large amount of money, received the constant treatments, and upon return had no lasting effect other than debt she's paying off 3 years later. Her testimonial was left on his website after repeated requests by her to remove it. His old website was www dot stopfibro dot com. The "new" Neurological Relief Centers method is the same thing with practically the same website address and uses the same video testimonials (my patient somehow wound up on there ... coincidence ... probably NOT!)

If you read and search for the stories of "Whitcomb" Neurologic Relief Centers patients you will find yourself flooded with stories of sadness, pain and debt. A few patients received some benefit long term. But then placebo's often work as well as that.

My estimation after due diligence and investigation is that the Neurologic Relief Centers is the same as the Whitcomb Relief Centers, which was a disaster for the furthering of understanding how correcting the human frame can help the long term recovery of those with fibromyalgia.

Remember ... you can package up s*#t in a pretty box and bow ... but it's still a box of ...

From "A Concerned Professional"

February 10, 2010 - 1:01pm
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