I apologize if my comment has struck a nerve. As for the anonymous bit, it really doesn't matter what my name is my face or my academic accreditation (okay maybe a bit for sentence structure and various other grammatical issues, thank god firefox has a spellchecker). But again, reiterating back to my original posts (it's the 3rd one). Which examples you've given (if indeed it is you Marina, since you're also an anonymous poster nobody can verify offhand) are all first hand experiences. Not a double blind clinical trial of the effects of acupuncture on medical problems such as back pain. And in no way accepted by anyone looking for reliable information.
I could link http://www.nih.gov/news/research_matters/may2009/05182009backpain.htm
That reference while not properly formatted is acceptable as a credible reference in most academical settings, even though there's still some question as to how much the funding of the study influenced the parameters. But that's another discussion. Notice the 3 treatment groups, including the one without any actual acupuncture (just perceived acupuncture), saw a relief from chronic back pain? That's some decent evidence. But you've done your research and it only took me 5s on Google.
May I draw your attention to the last two paragraphs of the article.
"However, the finding that real acupuncture produced no greater benefit than simulated acupuncture raises important questions about acupuncture’s mechanisms of action." AND "This adds to the growing body of evidence that there is something meaningful taking place during acupuncture treatments outside of actual needling."
I am not a person with an interest in neuroscience or psychology well other than a fleeting one and should be taken with a gain of salt so big it is likely to eclipse the Moon. But it all sounds like it's in our heads. The method itself doesn't work but the pain lessens because they perceive it might work. Or some other unknown process takes place. The mind is beautiful isn't it? Not my field though.
Just because he/she is a doctor/prof/whichever type of authoritative figure doesn't mean they're right whenever they're saying something. Which is why studies are created carried out and repeated by independent observers to verify claims and understand processes.
I realize this has put you on the spot and can be a bit of a blow to your credibility. That's okay. One of my profs once said, what are you 20? plenty of time to do whatever you want. Or something to that effect. He had 3 diplomas in different disciplines before settling for what he does now. My point is even if you have setbacks there's plenty of time to fix them if there's a will behind it.
So learn from mistakes, tricky part is to get over your ego which is telling you "f--- this guy he's making me lose credibility and money. Don't listen to him." etc etc. I don't care about you, I care about the things you say and everyone hears. The Ego is never a good idea to be involved with. It always makes you invent new enemies when they're not really there, and makes you keep doing the same mistakes over and over.
PS -- I dislike this culture of infotainment. It was nothing personal, however it is very important to see who wrote what and why. Motivation has a great impact on the type of writing you do. But back on my original point, infotainment is in my opinion conceptualized by trying to treat a very complex and difficult problem in 5 paragraphs no more than 1000 words. It is impossible and truthfully very dangerous. I especially LOVE the little dischlamer so small that I've missed it the first 2 times I read the article.
"We value and respect the experiences of all of our ..." Incorporated very well in the site with neutral font as to not stand out too much. But I'm ranting and I'll leave it as this.
Again, sorry for the hit. I hope you can rebound and write blog entries which are worthy of academic praise. Or at least a B+.
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I apologize if my comment has struck a nerve. As for the anonymous bit, it really doesn't matter what my name is my face or my academic accreditation (okay maybe a bit for sentence structure and various other grammatical issues, thank god firefox has a spellchecker). But again, reiterating back to my original posts (it's the 3rd one). Which examples you've given (if indeed it is you Marina, since you're also an anonymous poster nobody can verify offhand) are all first hand experiences. Not a double blind clinical trial of the effects of acupuncture on medical problems such as back pain. And in no way accepted by anyone looking for reliable information.
I could link http://www.nih.gov/news/research_matters/may2009/05182009backpain.htm
That reference while not properly formatted is acceptable as a credible reference in most academical settings, even though there's still some question as to how much the funding of the study influenced the parameters. But that's another discussion. Notice the 3 treatment groups, including the one without any actual acupuncture (just perceived acupuncture), saw a relief from chronic back pain? That's some decent evidence. But you've done your research and it only took me 5s on Google.
May I draw your attention to the last two paragraphs of the article.
"However, the finding that real acupuncture produced no greater benefit than simulated acupuncture raises important questions about acupuncture’s mechanisms of action." AND "This adds to the growing body of evidence that there is something meaningful taking place during acupuncture treatments outside of actual needling."
I am not a person with an interest in neuroscience or psychology well other than a fleeting one and should be taken with a gain of salt so big it is likely to eclipse the Moon. But it all sounds like it's in our heads. The method itself doesn't work but the pain lessens because they perceive it might work. Or some other unknown process takes place. The mind is beautiful isn't it? Not my field though.
Just because he/she is a doctor/prof/whichever type of authoritative figure doesn't mean they're right whenever they're saying something. Which is why studies are created carried out and repeated by independent observers to verify claims and understand processes.
I realize this has put you on the spot and can be a bit of a blow to your credibility. That's okay. One of my profs once said, what are you 20? plenty of time to do whatever you want. Or something to that effect. He had 3 diplomas in different disciplines before settling for what he does now. My point is even if you have setbacks there's plenty of time to fix them if there's a will behind it.
So learn from mistakes, tricky part is to get over your ego which is telling you "f--- this guy he's making me lose credibility and money. Don't listen to him." etc etc. I don't care about you, I care about the things you say and everyone hears. The Ego is never a good idea to be involved with. It always makes you invent new enemies when they're not really there, and makes you keep doing the same mistakes over and over.
PS -- I dislike this culture of infotainment. It was nothing personal, however it is very important to see who wrote what and why. Motivation has a great impact on the type of writing you do. But back on my original point, infotainment is in my opinion conceptualized by trying to treat a very complex and difficult problem in 5 paragraphs no more than 1000 words. It is impossible and truthfully very dangerous. I especially LOVE the little dischlamer so small that I've missed it the first 2 times I read the article.
"We value and respect the experiences of all of our ..." Incorporated very well in the site with neutral font as to not stand out too much. But I'm ranting and I'll leave it as this.
Again, sorry for the hit. I hope you can rebound and write blog entries which are worthy of academic praise. Or at least a B+.
June 15, 2009 - 8:37amThis Comment
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