"What I wanted to know was, where he heard that Wakefield was offered money to prove MMR caused autism and didn't take it”
See the BMJ. Supported by the UK’s notoriously plaintiff-friendly libel laws, Wakefield could sue if he believes that he has even the slightest chance of success. In his previous attempt, Wakefield withdrew, and Deer was reimbursed for his legal expenses.
“[W]hy in a pro-vaccine study I mentioned, did they exclude people if they'd been vaccinated with MMR less than 6 months before??”
That was clearly explained in the paper.
“[W]hy, if encephalopathy after vaccines is caused by a latent seizure disorder, do we not genetic test everyone for this and for mitochondrial dysfunction?”
(1) The mutations are rare. (2) The mutations have nothing to do with mitochondrial dysfunction. (3) A costly genetic test would have a very low yield. (4) This has nothing to do with vaccination, and the condition cannot be prevented.
“If the methods by which Wakefield detected the measles virus were wrong, then they should be asking him to repeat using different methods or draft in someone who isn't working for vaccine companies to do the studies.”
The methods Wakefield used have been shown to be “wrong” in that they produced what were clearly and repeatedly false-positive results which could have been shown to be false-positive by more careful work. Wakefield’s student, Dr. Nick Chadwick, testified that the putative measles-positive results from gut biopsies of children with autism were in fact uniformly false positives. Dr. Chadwick was not supported by pharmaceutical companies, but by Wakefield’s grants; moreover, Chadwick was exquisitely dependent on Wakefield, not only for his immediate support but for support for his long-term scientific ambitions. Wakefield was asked to repeat his study, but he declined.
"Until this is properly looked into for the children's sake (and that's the only reason I even talk about this, for the children's sake) and NOT for the sake of preserving the MV vaccination program, then rates of autism are still going to climb."
This has been "properly looked into" and it is clear that Wakefield was wrong. Rates of autism may indeed climb as a result of Wakefield's egregious errors: since MMR vaccination has prevented thousands of cases of ASD over the last decade, declining uptake of MMR courtesy of Wakefield (and with the help of uninformed people like you) should produce more cases of ASD:
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"What I wanted to know was, where he heard that Wakefield was offered money to prove MMR caused autism and didn't take it”
See the BMJ. Supported by the UK’s notoriously plaintiff-friendly libel laws, Wakefield could sue if he believes that he has even the slightest chance of success. In his previous attempt, Wakefield withdrew, and Deer was reimbursed for his legal expenses.
“[W]hy in a pro-vaccine study I mentioned, did they exclude people if they'd been vaccinated with MMR less than 6 months before??”
That was clearly explained in the paper.
“[W]hy, if encephalopathy after vaccines is caused by a latent seizure disorder, do we not genetic test everyone for this and for mitochondrial dysfunction?”
(1) The mutations are rare. (2) The mutations have nothing to do with mitochondrial dysfunction. (3) A costly genetic test would have a very low yield. (4) This has nothing to do with vaccination, and the condition cannot be prevented.
“If the methods by which Wakefield detected the measles virus were wrong, then they should be asking him to repeat using different methods or draft in someone who isn't working for vaccine companies to do the studies.”
The methods Wakefield used have been shown to be “wrong” in that they produced what were clearly and repeatedly false-positive results which could have been shown to be false-positive by more careful work. Wakefield’s student, Dr. Nick Chadwick, testified that the putative measles-positive results from gut biopsies of children with autism were in fact uniformly false positives. Dr. Chadwick was not supported by pharmaceutical companies, but by Wakefield’s grants; moreover, Chadwick was exquisitely dependent on Wakefield, not only for his immediate support but for support for his long-term scientific ambitions. Wakefield was asked to repeat his study, but he declined.
"Until this is properly looked into for the children's sake (and that's the only reason I even talk about this, for the children's sake) and NOT for the sake of preserving the MV vaccination program, then rates of autism are still going to climb."
This has been "properly looked into" and it is clear that Wakefield was wrong. Rates of autism may indeed climb as a result of Wakefield's egregious errors: since MMR vaccination has prevented thousands of cases of ASD over the last decade, declining uptake of MMR courtesy of Wakefield (and with the help of uninformed people like you) should produce more cases of ASD:
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/11/340
Strong work. You must be so proud.
September 10, 2011 - 8:15pmThis Comment
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