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could someone in the medical field address what choline citrate is

By November 20, 2008 - 8:32am
 
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i read an article that talks about magnesium and not getting enough of this supplement daily. the article goes on to talk about taking magnesium with the choline citrate for better absorption.
would like to hear from others about what exactly this substance is
thank you

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I think Diane P summarized most of what I was going to say here. Although I am not a clinical practitioner, I have been in the healthcare field for over 20 years. My love for health and wellness culminated when I completed my training as health/wellness coach a couple of years ago and since then the learning has not stopped. Despite all that, I consulted a colleague about your question. As a practicing chemist and owner of a nutraceutical company I think his response has value and I am pleased to share it. Here is what he had to say: “Choline is a nutrient closely related to B vitamins that helps the body produce and metabolize essential levels of fats and cholesterol. It is actually classified as a water-soluble part of the B Vitamin family. Choline is produced in the body but at such low quantities that he recommends people should be obtaining it through diet or supplementation"

He also stated that for the most part Choline is involved in activities related to the nervous system and the brain. He suggests a dietary plan that includes egg yolks (the best way obtain Choline). Other good sources of choline are peanuts, wheat germ, organ meats and legumes.

Choline citrate is a form of choline known to influence muscle contractions, movement and coordination. It also is involved in higher level brain functions like memory, thought and intellect. Choline Citrate is vital to the structural integrity of cell walls, the production of amino acids and proteins and the metabolism of fats. This form of choline is also known to cause no side effects such as diarrhea which may be the case with other types of choline such as choline bitartrate and choline chloride. So in other words there is no fear of overdosing on this supplement. However your body is wise enough to let you know when it has had enough magnesium by causing diarrhea. Since absorption of magnesium is enhanced by choline citrate, it is almost expected to get too much magnesium. If diarrhea occurs you should probably cut the dose or take a break for a few days.

Studies have shown that taking Choline Citrate helped:

* Enhance memory
* Aid in the treatment of Alzheimer’s Disease
* Improve cognitive function
* Improve the symptoms of Parkinson’s Disease.
* Enhance the effectiveness of lithium in the treatment of manic depression

November 20, 2008 - 9:41pm
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Anonymous (reply to Coach Virginia)

well, thank you so much. i very much appreciate your thoughtful response to my question. i will start the choline citrate again with the magnesium supplements. i never experienced any diarehha while on this combination of supplements.
while i have your eyes, i would like to ask you if you know anything about the supplement DIM ( from the cabbage family)? i am also taking this supplement to help regulate my hormones, as i was bleeding excessively (i am 54 yearls old). I have been on DIM for one month and so far it has curtailed by bleeding... i was even expecting to bleed this past week but so far that has not happened. I heard about DIM from this site, a video by a naturopath dr talked about how it helped women who were having female problems and how it had worked for them.
do you have any knowledge about this supplement?
thanks again for your advice
sincerely

November 24, 2008 - 2:00pm
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

coach virginia, thank you so much. i will continue this course of supplements. have a wonderful holiday
sincerely
cindcurran

November 25, 2008 - 7:07am
(reply to Anonymous)

DIM is a plant indole. In other words, a plant compound with health-promoting properties. You are correct about cabbage. DIM and other plant indoles are found in all cruciferous vegetables. Cruciferous vegetables include cabbage, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, and cauliflower. These plants have consumed for centuries for their medicinal properties. In the late 1980's scientists discovered that when broccoli was added to the diets of study animals, it could prevent certain forms of cancer. In more recent scientific studies, this same cancer protection was shown to result from simply adding supplements of DIM or related plant indoles to the animals' diets in place of the broccoli. Recently, regular use of DIM supplements (or any other indole relative) has shown that many of these health-promoting effects arise from a beneficial shift in the balance of the sex hormones, estrogen and testosterone.

In regards to your question about regulating hormonal levels, DIM could not hurt as it stimulates more efficient estrogen metabolism. Supplementing the diet with DIM and eating cruciferous vegetables will probably promote a healthier transition into menopause. However, keep in mind that DIM increases the specific aerobic metabolism for estrogen, multiplying the chance for estrogen to be broken down into its beneficial, or "good" estrogen metabolites. Nothing wrong with that correct? Many of the benefits that are attributed to estrogen, which include its ability to protect the heart and brain with its antioxidant activity, are now known to come from these "good" metabolites. As long as you can promote estrogen presence in your body the better protection you will maintain for your heart, brain, etc. I hope this helps!

November 24, 2008 - 11:59pm

Great question, Cindcurren!

Choline is part of the B Vitamin family. It's produced in the body but in low enough quantities that for the most part, we get it through diet or supplements. Egg yolk, peanuts, wheat germ, organ meats and legumes are good ways to obtain Choline through diet.

Choline is involved in activities related to your nervous system and your brain. Choline Citrate is involved in muscle contractions, coordination and movement. It is involved in brain functions like memory, thought and intellect, and is important in the structural strength of cell membranes, the way you metabolize fats and the way you produce amino acids.

Here's some more information on Choline:

http://www.vitaminstuff.com/choline.html

And here's an explainer about how the B vitamins work:

http://www.howstuffworks.com/vitamin-b.htm

Does this help a little? What specifically was the article saying about Choline Citrate and its effects that got you interested?

November 20, 2008 - 11:06am
(reply to Diane Porter)

thanks diane for you response.
i was reading an article that stated magnesium is more absorpable in your systems with the help of choline citrate. can one overdose on choline citrate... i was only taking one teaspoon with my magnesium and would like to continue this course if i dont need to be concerned about overdosing

November 20, 2008 - 11:24am
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