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Anyone in the ankle fusion community ever have to go back in after surgery to have screws removed?

By December 14, 2009 - 9:12am
 
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2nd surgery and now screws 60 days post-op are bothering me! I was wondering how long the re-cope time is for this then?

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Anonymous (reply to crutchgirl)

i had an external fixator for a few months and please by all means keep it clean!! I got a staph infection in one of the screws and also after posting a picture of it on facebook found out it was placed on my leg improperly.

December 19, 2015 - 5:47pm
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Anonymous (reply to crutchgirl)

I'm glad you were finally able to find a doctor to help you! I also was turned away by several b/c they were unsure about what to do with me. They all told me to go back to the original doctor who performed my first reconstructive surgery a decade ago, but he had moved and opened a new practice two states away. Finally, a bright young doctor who is an expert in ankle surgery agreed to help me.
About the external fixator - I wore one for four months as well after my first surgery (the one referred to above). I was in a horrible head on collision and I broke every single bone in my ankle, many were actually shattered & had a dislocation as well. I was told I faced amputation due to the extent of my injury & loss of blood flow, but my surgeon was able to save it in surgery & I left with an external stabilizer. It took quite a lot of getting used to! I do have a few tips. Find a place to lie down or sit with your leg elevated to prevent the swelling. Try to get it as high as you can. Keep your pin sites very clean. I had to clean them quite often. You don't want any infection to set in. Be very, very, very careful when walking around. You don't want to stumble or fall and put weight on it. Use a wheelchair as much as possible. I had a wheelchair in my kitchen just for fixing food b/c I was afraid I would stumble. I was lucky enough to have someone who was able to stay with me at all times, so I didn't have to walk on crutches too much. Another tip: find a small cushioned stool to have near the toilet so you can prop your leg up. Non-weight bearing means NOTHING, not even resting it on the floor. I found a way to shower with a plastic bag draped over my pin sites and my entire leg outside of the shower on a stool with a towel wrapped around my leg above the knee, and the shower curtain draped over. I had a hand held shower nozzle put in so I could still shower. I had to clean my leg (the part that I could not wash) outside of the shower. It was tough, but I got through it. Good luck with everything and keep us updated!!!
- Jessica

February 6, 2012 - 6:52pm

Hi Jessica,
Sorry to hear that you have been dealing with all this and then have to find out that it's much worse than they had anticipated. What type of ankle fusion did they finally end up doing? How long ago was your surgery? My recovery was over a year, so I can only image how long it's taken you to recover as well. What have been your biggest struggles since the surgery?
Hope to hear from you soon,
Ang

February 3, 2012 - 9:06am
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Anonymous (reply to angmares)

Hi! Without digging through my filing cabinet, I couldn't tell you the exact type, but I know it was the most serious procedure they could do. It was a full ankle fusion, where they removed my entire joint and put a rod in to hold it together, up through my heel. They also had to remove part of the leg bone to use as a bone graft b/c they didn't get enough bone from the bone donor. My surgery was in April 2010. I am walking better than before the surgery, so that is an improvement. I am overweight and out of shape, and I know if I could lose weight I would feel better, but it's hard b/c it is hard for me to walk and do lots of excercises. I tried joining a zumba class that was easy, but there was lots of jumping and I couldn't keep up. Water aerobics does work for me, but again, when there is lots of jumping in the water I can only jump with my left foot b/c I can't bend my right one at all since the ankle fusion, so my left foot takes all the impact and after a week or two I have hurt it (the back tendon).
Jessica

February 3, 2012 - 1:40pm
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Anonymous

I agree about getting as many opinions as you feel that you need. Just by viewing my x-rays the doctor's said that the only option for me was ankle fusion with a bone graft, yet when they did the actual surgery, the damage inside was much, much worse than what the x-rays showed. They ended up having to remove part of my leg bone b/c they didn't have enough bone from the bone bank for the graft. Much more had to be removed & my entire joint was taken out as well. The surgery took an extra 2 hours than it was supposed to and my recovery time was much longer than expected. I am still happy that I had the surgery though b/c I was barely walking before, even with a cane & by now I wouldn't be able to walk at all.
-Jessica

January 14, 2012 - 5:27am

For what it's worth, I think if the fusion didn't work you wouldn't lose your leg. I was told the same thing about ankle replacement--that it woudl be a good option for me when I get older, but not yet. I am too young and too active, and the replacement would wear out and have to be replaced again at least once and possible twice. Instead my surgeon did my fusion in such a way that it could come out and be replaced if fusion didn't take. But the good news is that my fusion was spectacularly successful. And I'm not exaggerating when I use "specctacularly"--he told me every time I went how good it looked. Because fusion is something he normally did only in much older people, mine healed way faster and better than what he was used to seeing. Maybe you'll have good luck too. :)

Thanks for posting, Kris, and please keep us updated as to what your second opinion says. And don't forget to get a third or fourth opinion if you need to. The last surgery I had in an attempt to get it fixed before fusion was the FOURTH surgeon I went to. The first three all said there was nothing they could do because the joint was too bad. The fourth said,"Oh, I think I can scrape some bone off," and he gave me a good 5 years of relief.

January 14, 2012 - 4:15am
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Anonymous

Please help me decide if I should have the fusion done. I am in pain everyday and am 38 years old. I have had the vine grafting done but they said it failed.they also said the lesion in my talus is getting larger. The bone spurs and the arthritis are not helping. Is the fusion a good choice or should I deal with the pain?

December 23, 2011 - 11:43pm
(reply to Anonymous)

I cannot recommend ankle fusion highly enough. I was 41 when I had it done, and my only regret is waiting so long. I had severe arthritis and an ankle joint that was all but frozen anyway, and pain all the time. After surgery I have a teensy bit of movement due to a newly created bit of a joint just outside what used to be my ankle joint, enough so that I don't even limp. I can jog a little. I can work on my feet all day without feeling anything but regular tired feet. And most important of all, NO PAIN. Don't get me wrong--it's major surgery. I had to have donor bone and a special kind of material to fuse my real bones with the donor bone (to the tune of about 15K), and it was a long and difficult recovery--one that can't be rushed. There was considerable pain after surgery, and it lasted a lot longer than I had anticipated. I still have numb patches of skin, which is very unpleasant. But I wouldn't go back to presurgery for all the money in the world, and given the same opportunity I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

December 24, 2011 - 1:24pm
(reply to Angela Schmangela)

I really appreciate you taking the time to comment about this. I am sooooo happy you have found relief from the pain and are living life again!!
I went back the week of Thanksgiving and he never even mentioned an ankle fusion, so confusing. This time he talked about going in and making a window in the tibia, cleaning out all of the dead and broken bone and doing a bone graft, then pinning and plating the the tibia. I go back in January and he said he would do another CT then decide what needed to be done. I received a cortisone injection that helped with some of the swelling but not the pain. However with less swelling I have been back in 2 shoes for about a month and that has been amazing. :)

December 26, 2011 - 8:50am
(reply to crutchgirl)

No problem! :)

If you only broke your ankle a year or so ago, then this might be pretty soon to have a fusion. I broke my ankle in high school, and I had numerous surgeries to try and repair things before we opted for fusion. And my break was a bad one--inside the joint itself, and so bad that the first surgeon opened it up and decided in the middle of surgery he couldn't fix it and ended up sending me on to a different hospital. The surgeries I had in the years since involved lots of bone scraping and shaving and every kind of hardware you can name, including screws to pins to plates to staples. In fact, I still have several staples in there now even after fusion because the bone had grown around them so much the surgeon couldn't pull them out. (And they feel NASTY, too--they stick out and are visible underneath my skin.) If you are satisfied with what your surgeon is telling you, then I would be content with that. And if not, then I wouldn't hesitate to get a second or even third opinion. The last surgery I had before fusion was about 10 years ago, and I had to go to three specialists before I could even find one willing to work on it. But that surgeon gave me another 7 or 8 years before I had to start seriously considering fusion.

I think you must still have some good cartilage in there if the cortisone shot gave you relief. I am obviously not in your shoes, but if I were I would try whatever I could first. There are some long term consequences to fusion, so if you can keep your natural joint for a few years that would probably be a good thing.

Good luck, and please keep us updated with what your doctor tells you in January!

December 26, 2011 - 10:26am
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