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Have you had experience with the Wiley Protocol?

By March 3, 2009 - 11:15am
 
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Has anyone had experience using the Wiley Protocol of hormone replacement therapy?

It is a method where bioidentical hormones are prescribed and are given transdermally -- through the skin -- in a patent-pending cream. A primary

difference between this protocol and some others is that the hormonal levels rise and fall, similar to the way a woman's normal cycle did when she was still menstruating.

There is some controversy on the web about T.S. Wiley's qualifications for developing a medical protocol, since she is not a doctor herself, she studied anthropology (though she co-authored the book "Sex, Lies, and Menopause" with Julie Taguchi, M.D.)

Some women claim wonderful results; others claim very troubling side effects. Does anyone out there have personal experiences to share?

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Anonymous

I have been using the Protocol for 4 months. I am also using the testosterone on the program, I just added that 2 weeks ago and the Dr. made an adjustment and increased both my estrogen and progesterone application after my last blood tests as well. I am due to give more blood on the 12th and the 21st of next month so we'll see how the levels look. I'm still not quite right yet. BUT I can tell you that right off the bat within a week of starting this I stopped with those horrible night sweats and I could sleep again, I also notice that the brain fog is pretty much gone now. I fell a lot sharper and can concentrate better, the only problem is that I am having problems with my weight, which I always do and I'm not sure if its because of the hormones or not. My skin looks great, my hair looks better. If I could get my weight back under control I think I'd be HOME FREE and feeling great. Don't worry about the big drug companies trying to smear the Wiley protocol and her credentials, you do what you think is best for you. I've found that nobody is really an expert in any of this and common sense will prevail..GO WILEY!!

July 17, 2009 - 11:43am
(reply to Anonymous)

i too am having weight gain issues 4 months on both pro. and est. gained 15 lbs. not happy but all other is good good libido no flashes no depression

September 4, 2009 - 5:53am
(reply to kasimon00)

I have been on the Wiley protocol for one month, having switched from linear bio-idential DHEA and progesterone. Within a week of starting I felt so much better - improved sleep, reduction in arthritis, improved energy and mood. However despite the claims by many, I have gained 3kg, having not previously battled with weight issues. I have tried increasing gym time and reducing calories, which would (in a past life) had me drop the weight within a week. Not so, it is dropping very slowly, gram by gram, with very hard work. Still, in the context of the many benefits, I will continue with it for a while.

My background is medical research. My doctor gave me the book "sex lies and menopause" and I found it ignorant and deeply offensive. I do not have a high regard for Wiley's stated "rationale" which is oftentimes based on the justification that other HRT efforts are "untested". Wiley proposes her method will be better - and this method is untested. The reason I chose to try this approach is not based on Wiley's opinion, but my own understanding of medicine, arthritis and how my body functioned pre-menopause and peri-menopause. I am aware it is a risk, but balance this against the long term problems of progressive arthritis.

January 11, 2012 - 4:55pm
(reply to kasimon00)

Yes, the fat attaches to the abdomen like you're four or five months pregnant. The high dose progesterone does that. The saliva test hormone lab said the progesterone level was way over what it would be even in pregnancy.

September 4, 2009 - 2:55pm
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Anonymous (reply to amanda8)

So you ate saying that the progesterone is do high it us causing weight gain correct my dr. Put me on an adrenal gland supplement to regulate my cortisol she says that will help with the belly fat. What did you do about yours?

September 4, 2009 - 6:27pm
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

Your doctor is correct to assume that belly fat is cortisol enduced.
You should only be taking cortisol if indeed your body is low.
(Once all hormone reserves are used, your thyroid and adrenals try to pick up the slack, so to speak, and eventually begin to mal function.
Correct balance of all hormones is imperative.

May 11, 2010 - 12:55pm
(reply to Anonymous)

I don't think adrenal glandulars will help belly fat caused by excess progesterone. I noticed a lot of the Wiley patients take cortisone to keep from feeling bad. Remember, they give high dose progesterone to AIDS patients to help them gain weight.

September 4, 2009 - 8:41pm
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Anonymous (reply to amanda8)

I would like to address the issue of weight gain.
The progesterone can cause bloating in some people, but it does not cause weight gain. If you experience bloating, take the total number of lines you need throughout the day, divide by 4 and apply that amount 4 times a day.
Progesterone is the necessary component to apoptosis (cell death) to prevent cancers.
You are gaining weight for all the usual reason one gains weight!
Not because you are using progesterone.
Your body will eventually adjust to your new life giving hormones.

May 11, 2010 - 12:51pm
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Anonymous

What gives you the idea that T.S. Wiley is highly educated? She never completed her B.A. in anthropology. And that was the end of her formal education. See http://wileywatch.org/ts_wileys_credentials

Everything after that is her say-so. See http://wileywatch.org/wiley_credentials_followup

For instance she has claimed as "education" a "7 year Private Tutorial in molecular biology with Dr. Bent Formby, PH.D. 1996-2003". Dr. Formby has responded that they were working on the books together -- he, researching, and she, writing. About Lights Out specifically: "It took forever (3 years) because she was extremely illiterate in bioscience. My work with her has nothing to do with being a private tutor. If I was a private tutor I would have charged her $300 per hour."

About her name appearing on a few journal papers, Dr. Formby says, "In hindsight she should never have been on 3 of my papers. According to NIH rules her interest should have been acknowledged. No more. She has never been in my lab to observe how molecular biology experiments are done."

For years she was falsely claiming to have received that B.A. degree. Newsweek and ABC News exposed it in the national media and that's when it disappeared from her biography.

In my opinion, highly-educated people don't need to lie about their education, and reputable people simply don't do it.

March 14, 2009 - 10:56pm
(reply to Anonymous)

Who said "highly educated?" I read and re-read the comments before this one and can't find where someone said that. I read "highly professional," and perhaps you interpreted that to mean educated? It also seems like there is a lot of animosity toward T.S. Wiley and I'm wondering why.

December 22, 2009 - 5:19pm
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