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After years of treatment and no success in curing chronic asthma and recurring infection, acid reflux has been identified as a significant component of the infections. Antibiotics were unsuccessful in eliminating the infections completely. Nissan fundoplication - the stomach is wrapped up and over the lower portion of the esophagus to control acid from refluxing up through the esophagus and into the lungs - was performed after elevated sleeping, dietary changes and meds didn't work. ACID REFLUX - people are aspirating acid and are not even aware; classic indigestion symptoms are frequently missing.
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I am a Male, age 39. I will wake up after sleeping for a couple of hours feeling and tasting a sweet acidic something high in my throat. (at this point I am usually not completely awake) I realize what is about to happen, and without being able to control it, the sweet acidic substance goes straight down my wind pipe and into my lungs. I will then usually cough uncontrollably for 30 minutes clearing out the fluid from my lungs, again sweet and acidic. I usually take a very small amount of pepto bismal and some water which eleviates the irritation in the esophagus enough to sleep. Usually within a couple of hours later I will awake to severe chills which requires curling up into the fetal position or actually jumping into the bath or shower with hot water. (this usually feels good short term, but the chills remain) I will usually fall back to sleep in a tight ball straining all muscles, only to waken a few hours later in the morning completely soaked in sweat. (much like breaking a severe fever) The following day is usually accompanied by severe coughing of phlem and blood, extreme fatigue (probably from the chills) and a slight taste of the sweet acidic substance in the back of my throat.
I take Prevacid regularly which controls my acid reflux and heartburn almost to perfection, so this recurring event had me stumped.
I have recently determined that if I drink milk or other dairy within about 5 hours of bedtime this is almost guaranteed to happen. (milk, ice cream, etc...) I have found that I can have Lactaid (or lactose free) milk within that timeframe and it doesn't happen. Not sure of the correlation. Also consuming too much food within 5 hours of bed will usually cause it as well but not as guaranteed as the regular dairy does.
I am still trying to find a real solution to this issue, most doctors will tell you to change your diet, but that just minimizes the occurance and doesn't eliminate it.
I hope this helps anybody who might also be suffering from this.
August 27, 2009 - 1:48pmThis Comment
I have this exact same thing--acid reflux with coughing and chills. Have never heard of anyone else having it. Have you found out what it is or how to stop it?
July 4, 2012 - 2:51pmThis Comment
I have the same symptoms. I had a Nissan and after a year, it has failed and my hiatal hernia is back. I often feel like food is stuck in my esophagus and have pain leading to regurgitation. My bariatric surgeon stated that there is a 50% failure rate. Very frustrated to be feeling so sick now. While the Nissan was working, I felt great. Not sure what to do about the other symptoms.
January 19, 2016 - 6:55pmThis Comment
Hi there, I've come across apple cider vinegar as a natural cure / treatment for acid reflux, while researching pnd. It is supposed to balance the body pH by making it more alkaline. And helps the general health of the gut. Please see this link
http://www.growyouthful.com/comment-ailment-remedy.php?ailmentNo=9&remedyNo=2
March 11, 2015 - 8:47pmThis Comment
I also experience a sweet tasting reflux in the middle of the night. The timing of the occurances is about 3-4 hours after going to sleep. Milk and dairy products SEVERELY increase the incidents of these events. I am on prilosec, have lost weight, and have improved my diet near bedtime. However, these incidents do still happen (although less frequently).
More worrisome is that I am now having severe panic attacks at the same time of the morning...3-4 hours after going to bed.
I have heard of "Liver Dumping" in diabetics, but test in the normal range for blood glucose (BG) after fasting.
Can anyone describe what might be happening 3-4 hours after going to bed that could be causing this?
Thanks!
August 17, 2011 - 1:56pmThis Comment
We were out of town this past week and my husband who has acid reflux, woke up in the middle of night coughing, could not breathe well, and was having chest pains and a severe burning sensation when he coughed. We went to ER. They first ruled out heart problems...all those tests were negative. We feel like he aspirated some of the acid into the lungs and has been coughing it up since the episode. We are back home now, and he will go to his gastro doctor Monday morning. Very scary!
June 28, 2009 - 5:21amThis Comment
Thanks to all for your comments and questions. My husband has been an asthmatic since childhood. In fact, his entire family relocated just to take advantage of cleaner air when he was young. The nissan fundo procedure has a tremendous success rate, with failure at less than 1%. The surgery has been performed on children as well as adults, with infants even being treated surgically, all with tremendous success.
Asthma is a puzzling, frustrating disease. Acid reflux is fairly straightforward: diet, meds, and in some cases surgery can have the healing effect.
You can be asthmatic and not acid refluxing - and acid refluxing and not be asthmatic.
March 10, 2009 - 8:00amThis Comment
I was born into this asmatic chamber i called diseased body, everyone has it, and everyone notice once they are past their 30s...(a diseased body...., i am not implying that everyone haves asthma) I have to disagree with your comment : "You can be asthmatic and not acid refluxing - and acid refluxing and not be asthmatic."
You cannot used logic with health, to make it clear enough to all of you, Asthma and acid reflux dont mix, if you look at what causes acid reflux, avoid those things, cause acid reflux will aggravate your asthma. Im currently obese, this extra fat that i have plundered in my body in the last couple of years, have triggered the Acid reflux bug... and ever since then, my asthma will trigger 3 to 6 often during the day.... sooooo.... let me help you on your premise.
You can be an asthmatic and not acid refluxing, AND acid refluxing AND NOT be asthmatic OR You can be an asthmatic who is not aware of his/her health : gains weight, gets acid reflux AND worsen his/her ASTHMA AND most of important thing of all, doesnt know that Acid Reflux is causing this. Soooo, Acid reflux will worsen your asthma, one droppet at a time.
You can be a human and not get sick, or you can be sick person and not be a human. OR You can be a researcher and not be a medic or you can be a medic and not be a researcher.
Doctors and Scientists are blinded when it comes to Asthma, only an Asthmatic will know more about his disease than anyone else. Believe me, asthmatics are excellent researchers and medics. We are people with more guts, and dreams than any one else, just try to breathing with your mouth and nose closed.
December 28, 2012 - 3:39pmThis Comment
Hello! My father-in-law had this same procedure done about 9 years ago and I just wanted to let you know that he is doing really well. He no longer has the problems with acid reflux and GERD that he did before the surgery. Before the procedure, he had to go in pretty regularly to have these tubes of gradually wider size stuck down his throat to stretch out his esophagus because the acid was damaging it so much he would get these awful choking episodes. He didn't have lung issues like your husband did, but definitely the reflux.
How long ago did your husband have it done? Has he noticed an improvement in his symptoms? I wish you both the best!!
March 9, 2009 - 9:49pmThis Comment
Hi there anon, Thanks for your post and I'm sorry to hear that you've been through so much with this.
As Michelle mentioned, there are a list of foods that can make reflux symptoms worse. According to the National Digestive Diseases Center -- a division of the National Institutes of Health -- they include:
* garlic and onions
* mint flavorings
* spicy foods
* citrus fruits
* chocolate
* drinks with caffeine or alcohol
* fatty and fried foods
Obesity and smoking are also factors.
While it sounds like you've taken every step to ease the symptoms, you may also want to contact some of the great organizations that specialize in these types of conditions to discover all of the available treatment options:
American College of Gastroenterology
Phone: 301–263–9000
Internet: www.acg.gi.org
American Gastroenterological Association
Phone: 301–654–2055
Email: [email protected]
Internet: www.gastro.org
International Foundation for Functional Gastrointestinal Disorders
Phone: 1–888–964–2001 or 414–964–1799
Email: [email protected]
Internet: www.aboutgerd.org
National Digestive Diseases Information Clearinghouse
Phone: 1–800–891–5389
Email: [email protected]
Internet: www.digestive.niddk.nih.gov
Please keep us updated on your husband's progress. Are there any other resources we can provide? Thanks anon.
March 9, 2009 - 12:20pmThis Comment