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ask: Is it normal for my heart rate to reach 200bpm while working out?

By Anonymous August 22, 2010 - 1:03pm
 
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I’m 28yo, 5ft 1in, and weigh 130lbs. I’m not on any type of medications and I’m very active, at least in my opinion. I work out 5 days/week for at least an hour each time. On Monday’s and Wednesday’s I run anywhere from 2-4 miles, in addition to calisthenics. On Tuesday’s and Thursday’s I attend spin classes which last about 45-50 min, and I combine that with strength training. My main problem/concern is when I run. I always get so tired so fast, about 5 min into the run. I always feel like I’m suffocating, or just can’t breathe and I feel like someone has drained all of my energy. I purchased a heart rate monitor, and I've noticed that I start to get tired when my heart rate gets around 170. Once it reaches the 190’s-200, it’s very uncomfortable and sometimes hurt, and I have to stop to catch my breath. I run at a very slow pace but it doesn’t matter, b/c I still can’t complete 1 mile without having to stop 2 or 3 times. If I increase my pace, I just get exhausted even faster.

I have tried different things like doing 2-A-days to build my endurance, taking daily multivitamins, eating a banana or cereal bar about an hour b/f I run, not eating b/f I run, and even 5-hr energy. I make sure I’m hydrated b/f I run and the only thing I drink is water and sometimes low calorie Gatorade or crystal light. I’ve tried the breathing technique of breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth, and even chewing gum, but it doesn’t help, I still have to stop for a break when I run. I’m not on any medications and as far as I know, I don’t have asthma. I do have sickle cell trait though, which may not be important. I’ve been in to see a doctor about the issue. They did an EKG which came out normal; he listened to my heart and said it sounds fine. He told me it was normal for my heart rate to get high b/c I’m young. But several co-workers & friends tell me that a heart rate that high is not normal. I’m so frustrated b/c I’ve been working out for years now and still can’t run. I understand that I’m supposed to feel some degree of exhaustion while running, but it seems like I should at least be able to do 1 mile without stopping. Or could it be that I’m just not a good runner and will never be? Sorry this is so long but I wanted to give as much info as I could.

 
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Alison Beaver Guide

The American Heart Association (AHA) has set target heart rates, as well as maximum heart rates, that we should strive to obtain while exercising.

For a 25 year old, the target zone working at 85% (the maximum you want to train at) is 166 bpm. For a 30 year old, it is 162 bpm. If you are working at 200 bpm, it means you are working too hard, at the maximum heart rate (100%) for a 20-year old. You can see the complete chart at AHA: Target Heart Rate.

The quick calculation is 220-your age for the maximum heart rate (100%). Your 200 bpm is over this maximum (192 bpm).

This is one gauge to know if you are working/training too hard, and also can be a test for your level of fitness. Another gauge is your resting heart rate. Do you know what your RHR is?

"AHA: Resting Heart Rate:
This is a person's heart rate at rest. The best time to find out your resting heart rate is in the morning, after a good night's sleep, and before you get out of bed.

The heart beats about 60 to 80 times a minute when we're at rest. Resting heart rate usually rises with age, and it's generally lower in physically fit people. Resting heart rate is used to determine one's training target heart rate. Athletes sometimes measure their resting heart rate as one way to find out if they're overtrained. The heart rate adapts to changes in the body's need for oxygen, such as during exercise or sleep."

Your RHR is a measure of fitness, and may be more important number to you. "Your MHR is genetically predetermined, and has basically nothing to do with your level of fitness. Some athletes have had MHR's in the 160 BPM-range, while others have rates that exceed 200 beats per minutes. The sole variation in your MHR is a decrease of approximately 1 BPM a year, a process that accompanies aging." (from marathonguide.com).

What's most important: how are you feeling during the times you run? Many marathoners DO walk and run throughout the course. If your body is being taxed by running, it sounds like you have tried many alternatives, but you may just try walking a mile, and see what your heart rate is. Then, walk 1 minute, jog 1 minute (12 minute pace or slower). Monitor your heart rate through this time as well.

You want to train smarter, and use the heart rate monitor as your guide. (You probably already know this?!). When you train at your maximum, you are working anaerobically, and can tax your body if at this level for more than a few minutes, leading to possible injury. You want to make sure you train aerobically, within 50-85% of your target heart rate. Whatever that exercise is...cycling, walking a mile, etc.

Did this information help? Are you able to start slower with your goal of running a mile....and walk a mile first, monitoring your heart rate? You can increase your pace by 30 seconds every-other week, until you are jogging, then running. Or, just mix in a 1-minute jog with walking. You still gain all of the benefits of going a mile, and many athletes walk/jog/run!

You might find this article interesting as well: Duathlon: Heart Rate Training by Mark Allen

August 22, 2010 - 7:41pm
Mellanie True Hills Expert

Your heartbeat getting up to 200 during exercise could be an indication of a heart issue. I wonder if you could be having "exercise-induced" fast heartbeats, which doctors call tachycardias. If your heartbeat is fast and irregular (feels like butterflies in your chest, or a flopping fish), that could be atrial fibrillation (afib).

Afib "fakes out" heart rate monitors, so your heart rate could actually be faster (or slower) than what is recorded, but since afib decreases the oxygen that gets distributed to the body, it makes you feel tired or exhausted.

If your doctor did your EKG while you were stationary, it wouldn't have picked up an exercise-induced heartbeat issue. You may want to ask about a treadmill stress test or to wear a Holter monitor for a day or two to capture what happens when you work out, especially if your heart seems to race out of control.

If this is a heartbeat problem, it needs to be diagnosed and treated since heartbeat issues (such as atrial fibrillation) can be very serious stuff.

Here's where to learn more about afib - especially check out the section on Why is afib a problem: Get Started Learning About Atrial Fibrillation: http://stopafib.org/newsitem.cfm/NEWSID/277

Mellanie True Hills

August 24, 2010 - 8:01am
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Anonymous (reply to Mellanie True Hills)

Alison & Mellanie,

Thank you both for your replies. My resting heart rate ranges between 68 & 78 in the morning b/f I get out of bed. Once I get up and moving (getting dressed; walking to my car) it jumps up to 100-110, which I guess is normal b/c I don’t really feel anything.

During the times I run, I feel ok in the beginning, but of course as I’m running, my heart rate gets higher and higher, and my breathing gets faster/heavier until eventually I’m so tired and I have to stop and walk. It doesn’t take very long for all of this to happen. Otherwise I’m in pretty good shape…but I just struggle so much with running. Could I just be one of the people whose heart rate normally exceeds 200bpm?

Is it safe to push yourself to the point where you feel nauseous and maybe vomit? I’m asking b/c I’ve worked out with someone who told me that I need to push myself, and if I need to vomit, then I should just vomit and I’ll be fine. This person is an excellent runner and I wanted to take their advice but I just didn’t know if pushing past that nauseating feeling was actually safe, or if was a sign to stop.

My EKG was actually done while I was stationary. Atrial fibrillation sounds very scary and something I’ve never known about until now. I really really hope I don’t have any type of heart issue. Since my heart rate has only been this high (190’s-200) while running which I guess would be “exercise induced,” maybe I should just stop running all together and just stick with other methods of aerobic activities.

Thanks for the information…

August 25, 2010 - 7:43pm
Mellanie True Hills Expert

What did your doctor say about this high heart rate and the nausea and wanting to vomit? That sounds a bit extreme, and pushing through it doesn't sound healthy. Atrial fibrillation is very common in competitive athletes, both young and older, because of the stress placed on the heart. In fact, most young people with afib got it from running and other high-intensity sports such as rowing and basketball. I'm surprised the doctor hasn't suggested having you wear a Holter monitor for 24-48 hours to record the heart, especially during exercise.

August 25, 2010 - 8:24pm
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Anonymous (reply to Mellanie True Hills)

The doc told me that b/c I was young, the high heart rate was normal; he assured me I was fine. However he did suggest the Holter monitor, but he also said that he didn't think I need it, & the only reason he suggest it is b/c I made the complaint. I haven't been in for it yet. I guess I want to believe that I'm fine too. Now I'm kind of worried. I didn't know anything about afib...I think I might just cut back on the running..

August 25, 2010 - 8:52pm
Alison Beaver Guide (reply to Anonymous)

Melanie has provided excellent information, and if it were me...I would want to rule out any Afib possibilities by wearing the Holter monitor. It does not hurt, and wouldn't it be great to NOT be worried, and know for sure?!

Your friend who pushes through nausea and vomiting sounds like an "old school" athlete, but there are still many like this. It depends on personality as well, but there did used to be a movement that was infamous for the "no pain, no gain" mentality to working out and sports. Depending on your level of competition, this may still be the philosophy, but if you are just running to increase stamina, endurance and overall fitness, "exercising until you puke" is not the norm of exercise anymore (thank goodness!).

The American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) is the authority on physical activity and sports, and you can read about their physical health guidelines : ACSM: Physical Health Guidelines.

August 26, 2010 - 1:59pm
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Anonymous

While not being a medical expert, I can share some of my thoughts regarding the natural urge to avoid finding out that you have a serious health problem. Although I wasn't as active as you have described, I was usually short of breath while exercising and I was feeling tired most of the time. I always thought that I wasn't exercising enough or at times that I needed to loose weight. I went to see a cardiologist after serious preassure from my wife (thanks to her). Luckily my doctor didn't send me after listening to the heart beat and the EKG. He also performed an echo (the ultrasound like machine). He found out that I had severe mitral valve prolapse which is a serious heart condition. Finding out that you have a heart condition at the age of 31 was initially devastating but in a couple of days I got used to the idea and accepted fact that I needed to go through heart surgery to get it fixed. I got the surgery in a month and now it's almost been six months and I am back at the gym feeling better than ever. I am verry happy that I saw the doctor and didn't just waive the symptoms off. I suggest that you also see your doctor one more time and get a holter or stress test as the experts have already suggested. So pls don't just believe that you are ok and cut back on running unless the doctors check every possibility. Otherwise you may regret it someday.

August 28, 2010 - 7:32am
Mellanie True Hills Expert

Anonymous (w/ mitral valve issues),

Thanks for sharing about your mitral valve issue. It's not easy to accept that you could have a heart issue at a young age, but as you wisely pointed out, it's so much better to know than to not know.

Anonymous (w/ high heartbeat),

I hope you'll take your doctor up on the Holter monitor. It will be very easy to let it capture any abnormalities by simply working out and running to replicate what normally happens. For many people, it takes a year or two (and sometimes a stroke or two) before their doctors finally diagnose them with atrial fibrillation. Sometimes it is because the doctor really doesn't take their symptoms seriously, and other times it's because they don't have an afib episode during the EKG or Holter monitoring. But you know exactly what brings it on and can easily replicate the conditions.

I don't want to scare you, but if it is afib, or even atrial flutter, that is something to take very seriously. Next week, in celebration of National Atrial Fibrillation Awareness Month (September), we at StopAfib.org are launching a video to raise awareness. A few significant facts from it include:

1) About 35% of those with atrial fibrillation will have a stroke
2) Atrial fibrillation strokes are fatal 3 times as often as other strokes
3) Risk of death is double for those with atrial fibrillation than for those without it

Younger folks without heart disease have lower risk than older folks with it, but even so, you can always be the exception. Having almost died twice in 2003, at the age of 51, I know that I was an exception as well, so it can happen to anyone. Please at least find out.

Good luck.

Mellanie

August 28, 2010 - 8:42am
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Anonymous

My guess would be anemia and she should have blood determinations and if correct start eating steak reggularly and taking iron, folate and B12 supplements

December 10, 2011 - 7:01am
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Anonymous

I have the exact same problem, I had cardiopulmonary stress test thats showed basically I go to anerobic mode within 4 minutes starting excercise, also had stress echo ,it was completely normal, I have to basically slow my pace and very gradually increase , my HR goes to 180 with 3-4 minutes of run and I have stop to rest

January 25, 2012 - 9:10pm
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