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Venous lake on my lip

By December 23, 2008 - 8:20am
 
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I have this dark blue/purple lesion on my lip that keeps getting bigger. I went to see the dermatologist and she said that it's a venous lake. She said it was nothing I had to worry about. Does anyone else have one or know of someone who does? If so, what was your/their treatment?

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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

Find a physician that uses the Cutera 1064 ND YAg Laser, it will treat your Vl in typically one treatment. You can locate a physician here, http://cutera.com/aesthetic-treatment-locator.php?PHPSESSID=cjhbsafr9j4n...

November 9, 2012 - 3:12pm
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"Stuffers"- If your lip bleeds once in a while at the site of the venous lake than it would be considered medically necessary to have it removed. Therefore would be covered by most insurance policies. Laser procedure should cost around $150. depending on the doctors rates. But do your research and make sure the doctor has removed venous lakes before successfully and has the right equipment. Good Luck!

July 5, 2012 - 8:24am

OMG, I thought I was the only one that had this venous lake lip problem. I never knew what to do. I too wanted to have it removed, but my Insurance will not cover it. It is very embrassing at times, you can add all the lipstick you want and it still shows. I have tried every kind of lipstick and the purple stuff just shows through. Any new tricks or ideas of what to use? I have had it for at least 10 years. I am in my late 60's, still want to look pretty.

July 5, 2012 - 1:02am
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I just wanted to let everyone here now about my experience having the venous lake in my lip treated. I'm 30, male and live in the UK and I had a noticeable venous lake on my lower lip. It had been growing slowly for a few years and was quite large and deep within my lip. While it wasn't obvious all the time, sometimes it would swell up and look like I had a black ink on my lip (usually when my blood pressure was up I guess). Sometimes people would tell me I had ink on my lip or ask me what was wrong and after a while I noticed I was curling my lip under or trying to hide it. I was even called “lippy” at work!

I saw my GP (doctor) and he basically advised not to mess with it. I lived with it a bit longer and was eventually referred to a dermatologist. They tried to freeze it but it was pointless. I was then recommend laser surgery but told I couldn't have it free on the NHS.

Eventually I went to a private cosmetic surgeon. While the surgeon did have access to lasers he recommend against them saying that my venous lake was too deep and too large. He explained that in order for the laser to penetrate deep enough to effect the lesion, the surface of my lip would become much hotter. He said I would likely need several treatments by laser (costly) and complications (scarring etc.) would be possible.

Instead he suggested I had it cut out. I was very worried about this. He explained that I would probably be left with a small line or crease on my lip, but as you have these on your lips anyway it wouldn't be very noticeable. He said that there is always a possibility of more widespread complications but this would not be likely. He said most people who have the treatment are very happy with it.

After a few months thinking about it I agreed. The treatment itself was absolutely painless (apart from the little aesthetic injection – but that wasn't too bad!). He cut a small line in my lip, took out the venous lake, and stitched it back up again with dissolvable stitches. The whole thing only took 5 or 10 minutes and I couldn't believe how quick and painless it was.

I was expecting my lip to swell up quite badly but it didn't. The most noticeable thing about it was some blue ink the surgeon had put on my lip (which took a few days to come off). In the days after my treatment my lips became very, very dry. I don't know if this was because I had developed a habit somehow or if it was a reaction to the surgery. No matter how much lip balm I put on them they just went hard and started cracking. This looked a bit messy but after a week or two my lips peeled and started to look more normal. After a few more days the stitches started to come out which looked like small bits of white cotton which I carefully trimmed. This lasted about 3 days and was painless.

The treatment cost about £800. I know it's expensive but I'm glad I had it done (about three months ago). My lip looks a lot better now – there is a very small scar/indent but this isn't isn't really noticeable and just looks like an ordinary feature of my lip (certainly much better than my venous lake). I can feel a small lump inside my lip but this seems to be slowly getting better and is not visually noticeable. The surgeon said there is always a possibility that the venous lake could return but that this isn't very likely, especially in the next few years.

Obviously there are no guarantees that someone else will have the same experience as me or that they will be as equally satisfied with the result, but I thought someone might find some the above information useful. Good luck.

March 21, 2012 - 1:27pm
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

Hi there I have one of these too, did you have to have a general anesthesia or was it done under local?

November 8, 2012 - 4:48am
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

Can you provide a picture of what your lip looks like now? I want to make a decision on how I want to treat my venous lake, but I need to consider the possible outcome and how my lip could possibly look afterwards.

May 24, 2012 - 11:55am
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

Hey I took a pic but just couldn't figure out how to put it in a reply. But really it wouldn't help much. My lips look completely normal now. I have absolutely no sign of where the venous lake was nor can I feel anything inside the lip. My treatment two years ago was the Laser with the cooltip. It was two maybe three zaps and it was gone. But previous to doing that I asked my dermatologist who treated my face with a photo laser to just go over my lip too. Didn't really do anything. Was the wrong laser. Needed the pinpoint laser that was done by another dermatologist. Sorry, can't remember brand name of Laser, but if you read through the postings you will see it. Hope that helps! Good Luck! -J

May 27, 2012 - 5:44pm
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

Ok...great! Thx!

May 29, 2012 - 6:42am
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Anonymous (reply to Anonymous)

I find your comment very useful. Thank you for sharing. Having mine cut out is an option which I have yet to entertain. I have had four laser treatments by a dermatologist. Since mine is also large and very deep, the result of the treatments is temporary and it always comes back. I am thinking that, for removal by surgery, I would feel better with a cosmetic surgeon, possibly even a vascular surgeon. It's always good to know what other people have experienced. Thank you again for sharing.

March 21, 2012 - 2:11pm
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Anonymous

Hi
I'm a 52 year old female in the UK with a venous lake on my top lip. Initially is was inside my mouth but after having cryosurgery 5 times in 6 years it kept re-appearing bigger. It is more obvious now than it ever was and has just encroached the lip line. I saw a consultant about having it lastered with the cutera cool tip and he says the lump is too dense. I researched more and found in America sclerothepy is used. However whilst the specialist says he will undertake this, he has pointed out that it may still return but,more worrying, the "solution" they inject to collapse the vein could leak out into the good area of lip and cause damage. Has anyone had the sclerothapy on their lip please? I'm undecided whether to have it done or not but I can't continue with this blue lump that lipstick does not really adhere to.
Thanks
Catie

March 17, 2012 - 8:55am
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